I have created this space so that discussions that are in open forum which appear to be triggering for many members can be moved here, where there are clear warnings that the topic may be triggering. Pleae note that topic numbers moved here may be edited to indicate the nature of possible triggers.

If you wish to start a topic in this section, please indicate in subject heading an idea of the content so members can choose whether to read ro not.

Hi Dibs,

I'm a bit unsure about this space. If I write something 'quite innocently' that triggers something in another board member what will happen to it?

Is this space intended for that purpose?

Thanks..

No Martin. If you post something which triggers people but is posted in appropriate space, i.e. your own personal space/diary, then no it isn't moved here. Your thread was moved here as it brought in several other members and was inappropriate for the place it was posted it. The thread was triggering, and therefore admin felt it was best moved to a place where people could decide whether to read it or not. A post entitled "Debate" in member's diary section does not indicate to people that they will be brought into the discussion personally or that it could trigger.

This space is also for members who want to post a subject that they know may be triggering to others, i.e. abuse related discussions.

My only concern with this approach is that we often have no idea what will "trigger" another person. We can write personally and passionately about something of importance to us and have genuinely no idea that what we have shared has unintentionally had a profound effect on another.

I know for myself, I can be triggered by the most innocent of comments, by a mere WORD, and the writer will not have done that intentionally. I can read what others are sharing perfectly rationally and openly, and at every turn be triggered-no one will know, and they do not need to, as I have to learn how to ground myself again, and "come back". And at times that is of course far from easy. But, on the other side, I fear it can feel very condemning to be told our posts have "triggered" another.

What I do feel is important is that the reader themselves, when able to, takes ownership for being triggered, and that any response eg. to choose to refrain from say a debate, is then repected by others.

I dont know if I have quite put that right-I hope I have---I just feel that taking ownersip both for writing and reading is important-just like being responsible for what we share in any contract.

At the root of it all is of course respect for one another, and a desire to do no intentional harm.

So says me!

I also don't really understand this thread. I am not sure what 'triggering' means either other that in terms of, for example, where words of a sexual nature can trigger pain from the past - that's what i see as a 'trigger'. Personally nothing that has been said here on these boards has 'triggered' me - it is opinions being directed at me inappropriately that has caused problems for me and if it is those opinions you are asking to come here - in a way that isn't directed at me then i feel it is a good idea. I will not be upset by any debate here as long as it isn't directed at me when i didn't ask or choose to be included. Then i can contribute or leave it rather than feel i have to respond. xx

Josephine I have recieved express opinions that any further talk of alternative therapies may 'trigger' said members and asked if these topics be kept for now with the warning may trigger so they can avoid that topic, I dont think is about what trigger means or doesnt mean it can mean many things to many, i hope this makes things clearer. Thank you for your input

Can I ask another question please....

I'm interested sometimes to ask a question of member when they have posted something that I think could be clarified for myself of another person. That's what got me into hot water recently!

However, I have directed that question at some members and they have been happy to reply and then perhaps another member does not like me asking things.

So....I'm a bit confused now about when I can ask amember to clarify what they are saying and when I can't.

Eek!

Martin - I will answer your question later via PM.

With regards to this space - if admin or mod feel or have received feedback that a particular post is triggering several members then the post/thread will be moved here. Admin and mods do not have to justify this move.

I am aware triggering may not be the right word but it was the one that came to mind - anyone got a better one, i am open to suggestions.

Triggering seems fine to me, I think I understand why we are using that word. If something I post is triggering I am also happy to remove it.

Martin if something is triggering it can be brought here. I know and understand its not always that obvious what will and will not effect others and something said in innocence will effect some and not others if it does each individual can express this and either keep away or ask for it to be moved here then less chance of stubbling on it. I think once a member is aware that something will affect other members and have been told such then it makes sense to put here in the first place as then avoiding upset. Non of us here are responsible for anyones feelings yet we have a duty as a member to not intentially hurt and avoid situations that could.

Triggerring is the word that has been used to describe how some members felt when reading posts so its an ok word and again its not really about the word is it?

Martin both me abd dibs will PM you over the weekend . With deepest respect to your views.